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2 Letters Arrived--COVID-19--Instructions--and Consent Form--(as of 2020-07-09)
by Atlantis in2020-07-04--and 2020-07 consent and contact form.
direction related to covid-19 pandemic for bodies of eldersgeneral precautionssecular authoritiesmeetingsfield ministryshepherdingtheocratic facilities and congregation recordscongregation expensesjudicial and other serious mattersconventions and assembliesschedule for viewing 2020 convention sessionstheocratic schools-----------------------------------letter 2 is a form to be filled out for:consent and contact details for attendees at the kingdom hallin order to support the nhs test and trace programme, we are taking contact details (name and telephone number) of all visitors, as well as recording the times people have entered and left the kingdom hall.if you are on the email list these letters are already sitting by your tv.
if you are not on the email list, reply below that you want a link put in your pm box.petra!https://docdro.id/dwwuizv
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8 Documents Arrived Today!
by Atlantis in1.--authorization and release agreementfor disaster relief medical assistance.
------------------------------------------------------------------2.--for the attention of all elders------------------------------------------------------------------.
3.--additional direction regarding assistance with practical needs------------------------------------------------------------------.
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Please link and add to the mail list. Thank you!
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Miss Piggy----Thrown Out of Zoom Meeting!
by Atlantis inmiss piggy was thrown out of the zoom meeting because she was showing to much cleavage.. https://docdro.id/s9jhehton her way out she grabbed the co's briefcase and gave him the finger.https://docdro.id/szfjix4then miss piggy jumped into her hot rod and is delivering all the co's secret documents to the neighborhood.https://docdro.id/bed59f8if you are on the email list, these documents are already in your email.
so just keep eating your buttered popcorn.2020-04-27--broadcasting meetings2020- information notice of broadcasting congregation meetings2020-notice of broadcasting2020-information on broadcasting congregation meetingspetra!.
https://docdro.id/i8d4tli.
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Why is it so important to them to let child molesters go out in the field ministry?
by Eustace inwhat's up with the watchtower society still letting those they know to have sexually abused children go out in the field service despite that being crucial to the ruling against them in the conti suit?
they don't let men with beards go out in the field service in america with the justification that "beards are not the custom" and that therefore they "are not considered acceptable for christian ministers," but having sexually abused a child is somehow acceptable for a christian minister?.
last i checked molesting children isn't considered socially acceptable according to the customs of the united states and certainly finding out that child molesters are allowed to be jehovah's witness publishers is a whole lot more alienating to potential converts than them seeing jehovah's witness publishers with beards.
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Ultimate Reality
Might this have something to do with legal liability while talking out of both sides of their mouths?
The WT likes to claim in court cases that participation in field ministry is a personal choice; they do not control or regulate a Christian's "personal ministry" (of course, that's not really true).
If the Governing Body were to openly and directly regulate or restrict participation in the field ministry, they would become liable for the actions of publishers, who they want to keep at arms length. Then they could no longer play the "personal ministry" card in legal cases.
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When did the society decide blood transfusions were a bad idea?
by new boy inmore book research..
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Ultimate Reality
I researched this a few years ago. Here are some notes I made; hope it helps. It morphs from anti-vaccination to anti-transfusion.
“Instead, we should write to them to keep away from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from anything strangled, and from blood. After all, Moses has had people to proclaim him in every city for generations, and on every Sabbath his books are read aloud in the synagogues.” – Acts 15:20,21, ISV
1909
"These prohibitions had never come to the Gentiles, because they had never been under the Law Covenant; but so deeply rooted were the Jewish ideas on this subject that it was necessary to the peace of the church that the Gentiles should observe this matter also." – Zion’s Watch Tower April 15, 1909
1931
“The most sacred thing on earth in the sight of God is human blood, “for in the image of God he made man.” (See Genesis 9:6.) God destroyed the entire human race, except Noah and his family, at the time of the flood, because of un-natural pollution of human blood.”
“So important was this covenant that God placed His bow in the clouds as an everlasting reminder of the danger of its violation.”
“What about Armageddon?…Will those who have made and injected and suffered the injection of calf and horse serums [for vaccination] into the human bloodstream go scot free? We doubt it.”
“Quite likely there is some connection between the violation of human blood and the spread of demonisim.”
“…much of the looseness of our day along sexual lines may be traceable to the easy and continued violation of the divine commands to keep human and animal blood apart from each other. With cells of foreign blood racing through his veins man is not normal, not himself, but lacks the poise and balance which make for self control.” – The Golden Age, February 4, 1931
1954
"We are told that it takes one and a third pints of whole blood to get enough of the blood protein or "fraction" known as gamma globulin for one injection... its being made of whole blood places it in the same category as blood transfusions as far as Jehovah's prohibition of taking blood into the system is concerned." - Awake!, January 8, 1954 p.24
1961
"The blood in any person is in reality the person himself. ... poisons due to personal living, eating and drinking habits ... The poisons that produce the impulse to commit suicide, murder, or steal are in the blood. Moral insanity, sexual perversions, repression, inferiority complexes, petty crimes - these often follow in the wake of blood transfusion." - Watchtower, September 1, 1961 p.564
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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"
by breakfast of champions inthis is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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Ultimate Reality
Others have said this but I think it should be repeated:
If parents are at fault for their kids leaving the organization, then, following Tony's argument to its logical conclusion, Jehovah is a failure as a father.
He failed to do what was necessary to protect his children, Adam and Eve...and that was a result of his failure as a father to the "angel who became Satan" and myriads of other disobedient spirit children to left the "heavenly part of God's organization."
I'm waiting on family to mention this meeting to me...they repeatedly brought it up in advance...and now I've heard nothing. I can tell they are always hoping for some development that will prove that I'm wrong for leaving or some change that will address my issues with the organization. Now, the Governing Body is claiming that, for those like me, it's not the Governing Body's fault we left...it's our parent's fault.
Thanks, Tony, for dropping your "turd" on parents everywhere.
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Bible Highlights(this week) : What is the bitter water that an adulteress had to drink in Numbers 5:24?
by raymond frantz inin this week's bible highlights we read about the bizarre trial by ordeal that a woman had to undergo if she was under suspicion of adultery .in number 5:24 we read about this strange "bitter water" that she had to drink resulting if guildy to a sponteneous degeneration of her reproductive organs ,please read the rest of the article here for more clarification ,maybe you can use it this week during the bible highlights at the meeting.... what is the bitter water that a woman had to drink in numbers 5:24?.
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And if she was pregnant as a result of the adultery, would this not cause the unborn child to be aborted? So, abortion is allowed if God is the one performing it. Just like rape (of Mary) is allowed, if God is the one doing it.
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New to The Jehovahs Witness Faith and need some help
by jnjburkett inhello there i am new to the faith and have been studying for about a month.
i am very excited and hungry for the truth and have not missed a meeting or study since the memorial.
we do about 2 bible studies a week.
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Ultimate Reality
After one month you're assuming many things about "truth" and the Jehovah's Witnesses/Watchtower being the sole posessor of truth or "revealed knowledge." You are also assuming that you are building a relationship with God and that it can only be made possible with this organization as a mediator to God. As the others have pointed out, go to jwfacts.com. Verify eveything there from the Watchtower's own publications and do not give up in thinking for yourself.
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The Last BOE!
by Atlantis inthis is the last boe we will be able to provide.
our informant or source, was caught, disfellowshipped, and thrown out of bethel.
we knew that sooner or later the watchtower would find him out.
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Wow! I hope he'll come to the forum and talk about his experience. What "scriptures" would they claim he violated in shining light on the GB and their letters?
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May KM 2014 - Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA)
by Ultimate Reality incourtesy of watchtower87, the may 2014 km has an announcement on page 4 as follows:.
"beneficiaries of a government program known as deferred action for childhood arrivals (daca) may apply to serve as temporary bethel family members or temporary volunteers.
when answering questions regarding citizenship on the application, these individuals should identify themselves as daca beneficiaries.".
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Ultimate Reality
Courtesy of Watchtower87, the May 2014 KM has an announcement on page 4 as follows:
"Beneficiaries of a government program known as Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) may apply to serve as temporary Bethel family members or temporary volunteers. When answering questions regarding citizenship on the application, these individuals should identify themselves as DACA beneficiaries."
So, does this mean that the WT is offering the privledge of service (free labor) at U.S. Bethel to a new group? The children of illegal aliens/undocumented workers who are also not in the U.S. legally?
According to Wikipedia:
Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (“DACA”) is a memorandum authored by the Obama Administration on June 15, 2012. It was implemented by the Secretary of the Department Homeland Security, Janet Napolitano. It directs U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to practice prosecutorial discretion towards some individuals who immigrated illegally to the United States as children.
A grant of deferred removal action does not confer lawful immigration status, alter an individual’s existing immigration status, or provide a path to citizenship.